Today some ask if the books of the bible were changed or corrupted, or even selected in some backroom conspiracy for inclusion in the bible at this council. However, in doing so, they deliberately excluded significant jewish and christian writings that would have threatened their religious agenda. Was jesus christ proclaimed god, at the council of nicea, as part of political. The council of laodicea was held in ad 364 and is considered a minor convention in historical christianity. And so a council was called to sanction the decisions.
With extensive commentary on the three books of enoch, the fallen angels, the calendar of enoch, and daniels prophecy history, symbols, texts, and commentary by joseph lumpkin, available at book depository with free delivery worldwide. The meeting featured only about thirty members, all from the local middle eastern churches. It was a well respected writing doing the rounds in new testament times. This council revoked the condemnation of monophysitism as well as the affirmation of reincarnation, codified in 451 a. The protected word of god does tell us all things when we open our spiritual minds and let go of false images about reincarnation. Did the council of nicaea take away reincarnation and give us the bible. Should we use the septuagint and accept its canonical books. Enoch was taken into heaven and was shown the end from the beginning. Evidence suggests that the book of enoch was written somewhere around the same time the apocrypha a books were written, jesus never quoted from the book of enoch, the apostles didnt quoted from the book of enoch either. Is it true that constantine the great and his mother helen had books.
You see, a bunch of men got together and decided the canon of scripture at the council of nicea, picking some books, rejecting others. Did constantine corrupt the bible perhaps at council of. Some people either dont know or overlook the fact that the book of revelation was doubted in eastern christianity and not generally accepted into the. Indeed, the gnostic christians believed reincarnation to be the true. The council of nicea added various commentaries and writings from a christian perspective to the jewish writings known as the septuagint to create what is now called the bible. Constantine was a roman emperor who lived from 274 to 337 a. By compiling a book of sacred writings, constantine thought that the book. There were some in the church, led by arius of alexandria, who denied that jesus christ was god in human flesh, the second person of the trinity. The idea that the bible originally consisted of a far greater number of books seems to be a persistent myth here on quora. Council of nicea no reincarnation, no books of the bible. I discovered that the early church did in fact use the lxx, but they they also considered the deuterocanonical books which are a part of the septuagint to be scripture as well. Reincarnation was deliberately suppressed by christian authorities. The synod, however, was not binding for the almost 3,000 bishops spread across the empire. The book of enoch and the church coverup sherry shriner.
Why did the vatican remove 14 books from the bible in 1684. Since jewish mysticism existed in the third century before christ, as enoch. You cant really trust the bible, my latterday saints acquaintance said, because you really dont know what books belong in it. And, contrary to what seems to be a popular belief among many quora contributors, christianity never had an official canon t. An analysis of the nicene creed in comparison with jesus teachings. In june 325 the council opened and continued for two months, with constantine attending. The book was rejected by the council of nicea in ad 325 as being just a little too weird. In addition to using a pseudonym, the first chapter of the book of enoch also makes use of a famous statement made by the real enoch who lived millennia before the oldest known copies of the book of enoch came into existence. The council of nicaea itself is a controversial topic, so naturally i dived in headfirst. Why were the books of enoch, barnabas and thomas omitted. In fact, the early church councils never addressed the issue of reincarnation. In the secret book of john, reincarnation is placed at the heart of its. Click here for the reluctant messenger host site christian reincarnation the long forgotten doctrine does it make any ultimate difference in the religious life whether or not one believes in reincarnation.
The council of nicea was expressly interested in making sure that the doctrine of the triune godhead was clearly expressed by the canon, and especially that it would not be misunderstood by. In 325, constantine called the council of nicea, which was the first general conference of the christian. Why did they remove 75 books from the original bible. The creed, with some changes made at a later fourth century council, is still given today in many churches. In 553 ad, the councel of nicea in constantinople had a main purpose, and it was to ratify those specific thoughts. The book of enoch was not written by the actual enoch the seventh from adam. At some point, for nefarious reasons, someone ripped a bunch of books out, most likely to support their own agenda. The doctrine of reincarnation derives from antiquity, originating in the east, but also found in ancient. Greetings all, several posters here have made the claim that the council of nicea decided the books of the bible. In truth, there was no single church authority or council that convened to rubber stamp the biblical canon official list of books in the bible, not at nicea or anywhere else in antiquity, explains jason combs, an assistant professor at brigham young university specializing in ancient christianity. In 325 ad constantine convened the council of nicaea, the first empirewide meeting of church leaders to discuss various doctrinal controversies. According to genesis, the first book of the old testament, enoch was the seventh generation of adam and eve and the father of methuselah, who lived 969 years and. Evidence suggests reincarnation was intentionally removed. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after christ.
Recently i heard someone argue for the use of the septuagint on the basis that the early church, apostles and jesus himself used it. In the epistle of jude, 14, it quotes directly from the book of enoch. Now, enoch is considered one of the canonical texts, but was removed at the council of trent, because, he tells the truth. So, heres a question to all of you who follow the nicene bible. There was no councelsic of nicea in constantinople there was a council of nicea in 325ce it was in nicea, now turkey. He was given instructions for believers living at the end.
Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading complete books of enoch. He discusses the truth about heaven and hell, both, but his vernacular was so naive that the council of nicea didnt understand what he was getting at. Some christian churches include some or all of the same texts within the body of their version of the old testament. Did the council of nicaea take away reincarnation and give. Did constantine decide what books belonged in the bible. Gnostic cosmology, council of nicea, library of alexandria, archons and biblical mythologies. The council of nicaea had nothing to do with the bible.
We are told of the translations of elijah and enoch for a purpose. The 2,000yearold book of giants describes how the nephilim were destroyed. Most of these things he supposedly pulled off at the council of nicea. An immortal and indestructible soul implies reincarnation. But because this book is found by the nicene council to have been counted among the number of the sacred scriptures, i have acquiesced to. Download pdf download ebook epub many people claim that a certain council took the teaching of reincarnation out of the bible. We can tell what books were used as scripture by the early churches. This and many other books became discredited after the council of laodicea. The bishops modified an existing creed to fit their purposes. With so many discrepancies with the rest of scripture, and the fact there is no way enoch could have written this book he was taken to heaven, way back in genesis this is a book that has been looked at many times for consideration, but never was in the canon including the original council of nicea and council of trent. Christian reincarnation more scriptural support for reincarnation. This sect was ultimately destroyed by the roman orthodox church, their followers burned at the stake and their writings wiped out.
Why is the book of enoch excluded from the bible when it. Thank you very much for clarifying because i too had been taught at university that the counsel at nicea determined which books were canon. Constantinople council was on christology, not reincarnation. The book reads, the fundamental irony of christianity. While i cannot directly address the topic of reincarnation the council of nicaea did discuss the topics of heresy, orthodoxy and heterodoxy. The catholic church finally declared soul sleep a heresy at the fifth council of the. Many christians have the misconception that the concept of reincarnation holds. The canon of scripture study resources blue letter bible. We have letters and books dating all the way back to a. A similar albeit not exact quotation of enoch exists in the new testament book of jude in verses 1415. Some of those attending the council, which had several sessions, were those being exluded for their writing, philosophies and theologies. Why did council of nicea edit reincarnation out the bible.
Reincarnation part ii, enoch unraveling false images. Ancient writings were discovered in 1945 which revealed more information about the concept of reincarnation from a sect of christians called gnostics. There seem to be a number of legends about the first council of nicaea 325ad in circulation on the internet, presented as fact. Fallen angels and the origins of evil karma and reincarnation the lost teachings of jesus the book of enoch the prophet quietly comes the buddha the path to the universal christ kabbalah. The early church taught reincarnation, some say, until the sixth century when it was suppressed at a church council. You see, a bunch of men got together and decided the canon of scripture at the council of nicea, picking some books. Youre forgetting the book of enoch time of noah, as. The premise of the book of enoch is angels left their positions in heaven and incarnated into. The council in constantinople was called just that, not council of nicea, the two nicene councils occurred in 325 a.
The quotation is from the apocryphal book of enoch, which claims to have been written by the enoch of genesis 5, but this book did not appear until the first century b. This was the first deathblow to the doctrine of reincarnation. Reincarnation in the bible part 6 neardeath experiences. And that these authorities also removed all references to reincarnation from the bible. Some people seem to think that the council, which was the first council of all the bishops of the christian church, either invented the new testament, or edited it to remove references to reincarnation or whatever or burned large numbers of heretical works, or. The council was evoked by the emperor justinian and empress theodora to decide then what were to be acceptable christian beliefs and practices. The book of enoch is just a longer version of the books of daniel and revelation. We do have enoch s writings in gods word, as moses the pentateuch, the first five books of the bible. Did the council of nicaea take away reincarnation and give us the.
Council of nicea book of thomas, book of enoch, book of philip and book of mary magdelene they arent in there either they were removed by constantine in 427a. Although the majority cannot name the specific council, they most frequently refer to the second council of constantinople a. Where the book of enoch derived his information is another matter. It was accepted as scripture by the savior and his apostles and believed to have actually been written by the great prophet enoch jude 1.
The book of enoch, like the book of daniel, was originally written in aramaic, and partly in hebrew 1. The council of nicaea nicea and the bible the tertullian project. Karma and reincarnation the lost teachings of jesus the book of enoch the. Doctrines of reincarnation were current in much of early christianity, and would. Reincarnation was officially removed from christian doctrine during the fifth ecumenical council in the year 553 also known as the second council of constantinople. This ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of christendom. In the spiritual gospel of john, jesus explains, the one who believes in me will also do the works that i do. Some books were discarded thomas, enoch etc because they did not fit into what religious leaders wanted, decided at the council of nicea. It is very important to clarify exactly what role the emperor constantine played in the council of nicea, what the purpose for the council was, what happened at nicea, and briefly how the canonthe bible as we know itwas formed. Enoch contains unique material on the origins of demons and giants, why some angels fell from heaven, an explanation of why the great flood was morally necessary, and prophetic exposition of the.
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